Cost of data plan in Canada (really bad)

kingTheod
kingTheod EarthPosts: 82
edited August 2021 in Break Room

hi there

We are all clients at Fizz bc we all want affordale calls/ Data plans

we all know Canada is a pretty expensive country regarding your phone plan.

it's actually the most expensive nation in the OECD club

of course, the oligopole led by the duo Bell-Rogers and in the lesser Telus keep prices skyhigh

well i found this ressource (from 2020) on visualcapitalist.com : ''what does 1GB of mobile data cost in every country''

you might be really surprised !!! here in canada we are truly squeezed out so badly !!

Fizz gives us some relief...but still rooms for improvement !

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  • Mataze
    Mataze ⭐ REFERRAL CODE ⭐ P62DG⭐ CODE RÉFÉRENCE ⭐ Posts: 629
    edited August 2021

    Wow, it is crazy how expensive we pay here. It is unbelivable.

    Thanks for sharing !

    I might thinking about moving to india .. (0.09$ / 1 GB data ..). Or maybe not ahah

  • RyHi
    RyHi referral code HRAT8Posts: 149

    Just some thoughts....does population density play a part in this? Does the sprawling landscape make it more expensive to give coverage to individuals?

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  • StefanM
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    edited August 2021

    I hope with the planned expansion if Vidéotron to other provinces, it will give a bit more competition. The sole problem in Canada is that Bell/Telus/Rogers control the market and have the political cover to do so. It was the same in Europe until the European Court of Justice ruled that MVNOs have to be allowed access, at no above market cost, to the networks of the big operators.

    As soon as the ruling came out, you saw smaller companies emerging, more competition and prices went down. The Big Companies were arguing the same as Bell/Telus/Rogers namely that opening their networks up would force them to neglect investment in infrastructure. All of that wasn't true, of course, and now they cannot even charge roaming fees within the EU anymore.

  • kingTheod
    kingTheod EarthPosts: 82

    considering 80% of Canadians live near the US border, in urban centers, the network expansion has been already paid off years ago (remember the Access network fees...), this argument was previously used by the big telcos to keep such fees forever.

    Russia is bigger than Canada, but they pay far less than here.

    politicians dont have the will (=balls) to introduce more competition . big 3 are lobbying too much at Ottawa...

    foreign players seem not interested to invest in Canada : low population, large country, market locked by big 3, require massive investment, ROI insufficient, CRT under the big 3, over-protected market,...

    Quebecor may get licenses in Western Canada ..to become the 4th national carrier, thus Videotron may open services across canada and our mobile plan might work nationwide ? let's hope !

  • RyHi
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    @kingTheod population of Russia vs population of Canada

  • Giantlaw
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    Thanks for the food for thought

  • I remember visiting France and buying cheaper roaming in Canada than I can have here. It's absurd, thx for the link

  • kingTheod
    kingTheod EarthPosts: 82

    you may have a point but....

    but large population doesnt mean cheap price. consider USA/Russia

    USA = 338 millions = $USD 8/giga

    Russia = 145 millions = 52 c/giga

    Israel = 8.6 millions = world's second cheapest at 11 c/giga

    there are many factors to explain such distortions, population itself not enough.

  • MathLaj
    MathLaj QuébecPosts: 22

    I traveled for a few years abroad, Cambodia, Vietnam and other "third-world countries" has their data so cheap (a few dollars for like 5GB) and the network is also really reliable, even in remote locations.

  • It is really frustrating indeed

  • Doomdrou
    Doomdrou Code de référence/Referral code: IH16HPosts: 656

    This is a question that can’t easily be answered. Low population density combined with a huge territory is certainly one cause of the problem. Another answer would be the complete domination of the Big Three.

    However, Russia has quite a low population density and the largest territory on Earth, and their mobile fees are extremely low. On the other hand, the USA has a big population (and territory), but is dominated by their own Big Three (AT&T, Verizon and T Mobile), and have high relative fees (but lower than Canada’s).

    One factor that has been ignored is the mobility of the population. In Europe and Asia, the population is very mobile, meaning that they tend to travel a lot for work, leisure and life in general. The interconnection between people is extremely high. However, in North America, this factor is much less present, as our transportation networks as well as our communication networks are far from being as developed. People tend to stay where they are instead of being in constant movement. In consequence, telecom prices are much higher.

    However, I think the whole situation is improving, as plans are less expensive than they were 5-10 years ago. For example, I was paying 45$ per month for a 2 GB plan in 2014, while I am paying 45$ nowadays for an 11 GB plan. This is far from being Europe-level low, but it is much better than before.

  • kingTheod
    kingTheod EarthPosts: 82

    **Quebecor to acquire Freedom from Rogers**

    Rogers to sell Freedom (former WindMobile) to Quebecor for $2.8 billions, hoping to get approval from regulator and competition bureau

    Rogers is currently in talk to takeover Shaw, spending a whopping $26 billions.

    to please gov official, Rogers is willing to sell Freedom to speed u

    interestingly, Globalive made higher bid ($900 millions) but Rogers declined and selected Quebecor : Globalive could be a threat on the long term in mobile business while Quebecor low mobile penetration in Canada (operate quasi mostly in Quebec) doesnt present a challenge.

    Canadian telco hate competition !

  • swatt
    swatt Code de référence/ referral code: IAN66Posts: 547

    It is very expensive in this wide country.

  • Vasiok
    Vasiok Posts: 28

    Yes, Canadian Telecom companies hates competition and because the Canadian market is closed and there is no competition, the prices are so skyrocket!

    Unfortunately, I don't see any changes in the near future.