Understanding VoLTE and its implications
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@G225 code IRSGE said:
Have you Sim with a lightning ?
Update your phone too!Yes, it has a red lightning.
Yes, my phone is dual sim asia version.
I thought it works with any voLTE phone as long as it supports the FIZZ frequency bands.
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When 3G is shutting down, I cannot make/receive phone calls, but I'm still able to receive/send text messages and surf the internet, right?
Thank you
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@spaghetti said:
When 3G is shutting down, I cannot make/receive phone calls, but I'm still able to receive/send text messages and surf the internet, right?Thank you
yes! Asia phone have normaly One frequency band for America of 4.
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I am still confused why in IPhone settings in data options there is an option between LTE and 3G.
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That’s only on iPhone 11 or earlier cause later phones have 5G
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And as a result don’t have that setting
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Who would willingly choose 3G over LTE network
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Wait maybe it’s if you live in a bad signal area
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And you use 3G to get a better signal cause 3G has better range right?
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Someone let me know whether I’m right?
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Hi, some providers in the past only supported 3G while others supported both. 3G performed better than 4G, which is better than 5G. However, 5G has better speed or latency under ideal conditions compared to older technology. It performs worse indoors.
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I am still confused why in IPhone settings in data options there is an option between LTE and 3G.
That’s only on iPhone 11 or earlier cause later phones have 5G
And as a result don’t have that setting
It depends on the carrier and sim card you use. Apple merely changed the default, what settings are showing in the menu when their is no explicit carrier configuration for this. But, if a carrier explicitly configures it, the menu will show all the options, 5G, LTE or 3G.
Who would willingly choose 3G over LTE network
3G is a completely different network from LTE, with its own frequency bands and sometimes towers. You basically have two networks to choose from. This is contrary to 5G, which currently is merely an addon to LTE, broadcast from the same towers and configured not to run independently of an underlying LTE signal. When you have two networks, there may be some areas, where your LTE signal is bad enough that you barely get any data through, but your 3G signal is just fine. That's when you may choose to use 3G exclusively.
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@G225 code IRSGE said:
@umtabasu said:
I just got to know that Samsung Note 9 doesn't have THE VOLTE!!!This phone is 2018 and discontinued. This means that even though it is technically capable of VoLTE, it is not receiving the correct configuration parameters (IMS profile) to operate on the Fizz network.
I can still make calls and receive calls, using my old Note9
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Well, it's a rolling shutdown, some regions affected earlier than others. A good way for carriers to monitor its impact and take action as necessary.
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@umtabasu said:
@G225 code IRSGE said:
@umtabasu said:
I just got to know that Samsung Note 9 doesn't have THE VOLTE!!!This phone is 2018 and discontinued. This means that even though it is technically capable of VoLTE, it is not receiving the correct configuration parameters (IMS profile) to operate on the Fizz network.
I can still make calls and receive calls, using my old Note9
Possible, but not for a long time.
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I didn’t know that 5G and LTE had the same towers. Are you sure?
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@BlueAardvark470 said:
I didn’t know that 5G and LTE had the same towers. Are you sure?Yes, in many cases, 5G and LTE share the same cell towers.This means that a 5G signal is often emitted from the same physical location as LTE.However, 5G is not standalone in all situations: it sometimes relies on LTE to function, especially in non-standalone (NSA) configurations.
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Thank you for the information. I didn’t know that!
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@G225 code IRSGE said:
To buy a next phone, look if it's on Fizz's list before or not, yes it's a deed party.Any phone I buy from anywhere should work with all providers.
It is not just Fizz but all providers trying to keep control since they were forced to sell unlocked phones.
This is just another attempt to lock people in.0 -
@bjlockie said:
@G225 code IRSGE said:
To buy a next phone, look if it's on Fizz's list before or not, yes it's a deed party.Any phone I buy from anywhere should work with all providers.
It is not just Fizz but all providers trying to keep control since they were forced to sell unlocked phones.
This is just another attempt to lock people in.exactly !!!
I just bought a new Samsung A16 5G dual sim cellphone. But, no VoLTE icon for my Fizz or Rogers sim cards, because my phone is not Canada version cellphone....
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I just activated my plan with an esim.
I called test number and it said it could not complete the call.
I was WTH.
I called back a few minutes later and it said I have VoLTE.
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@spaghetti said:
I just bought a new Samsung A16 5G dual sim cellphone. But, no VoLTE icon for my Fizz or Rogers sim cards, because my phone is not Canada version cellphone....The advice is call the test number before you buy the phone with the phone you haven't bought. :-)
The problem is even if it worked on Fizz it might not work anywhere else.
More vendor lock in.
I hope someone can't move their phone and sues to fix this mess.0 -
@spaghetti said:
@bjlockie said:
@G225 code IRSGE said:
To buy a next phone, look if it's on Fizz's list before or not, yes it's a deed party.Any phone I buy from anywhere should work with all providers.
It is not just Fizz but all providers trying to keep control since they were forced to sell unlocked phones.
This is just another attempt to lock people in.exactly !!!
I just bought a new Samsung A16 5G dual sim cellphone. But, no VoLTE icon for my Fizz or Rogers sim cards, because my phone is not Canada version cellphone....
Typically, phones that are not from North America do not have the correct frequencies. In clear terms, they have only one frequency out of four. So it's up to us to look into buying local phones with all the frequencies available here.
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@bjlockie said:
@G225 code IRSGE said:
To buy a next phone, look if it's on Fizz's list before or not, yes it's a deed party.Any phone I buy from anywhere should work with all providers.
It is not just Fizz but all providers trying to keep control since they were forced to sell unlocked phones.
This is just another attempt to lock people in.North American 5G phone: very high probability of compatibility with all Canadian providers.
VoLTE: depends on the model, provider, and software configuration. (IMS)
This is where it can get tricky.
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